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--- carizma wrote:
> Oh stop whining you crazy ass. I'm sorry you need to post out conversation just so you can get people to aww you so you can feel better about yourself but face it. You have already screwed your children. Up for life. Let's just hope when you're sons are old enough to search the web they don't look you up and see your disgusting porn with your legs spread for the world to see. Trust me, that's enough to turn anyone gay. Have a good one :) I'm sure someone else will come along posting links of your lame drama about me.

---MEEEEEEEEE!:
Son, hunny, son. I have one son that I birthed. Two daughter's though!!

Have fun refusing to accept a child who is different from your norm. :)

I will console myself knowing that my beautiful children will grow up to be a much better person than you could ever be.



--- carizma wrote:
> No actually you birthed two boys . For you to think he is a girl just because you think he feels that way mentally is just not right. He has a penis therefore he surely is a male. Even if mentally he is this female. You for sure birthed a boy. Check his birth certificate. If he wants to change his penis to a vagina when he's 18 that's his choice but for you to gave birth to a boy not a girl. Mentally or not.



So I responded with:

Hey, go make a post in Transgender, I dare you. Say this to an adult trans person who is pre-op. I FUCKING DARE YOUUUUUUUU. Oh wait, you won't. You don't have the balls to say this to an adult. You feel its ok to bash a 6 year old little GIRL though, because you have nothing better in your life.

You are a sad, ignorant, unaccepting individual, and for that, I pity you. :(

--- carizma wrote:
> It's not him I'm saying it to. It's you. You are not realizing yes HE may be a girl on the inside but honestly on the out, right now he's a little boy. I have trabsgenered friends, gay and lesbian friends. That's beyond the point. They even admit hey yes I was a boy, but now I am a girl. Mentally your son is a girl. Physically he is a boy . That's not Rocket science. It's fact. And you can say I'm ignorant youpity me blah blah blah. Honestly , I pity you. You're the one whose shit is on total blast on the Internet for let's face it, being a pretty shitty mom. I'm not the one who had her kids taken away, nor am I the one who's tits and ass are being whored all over the world to see. Your child is fine, he has nothing to worry about. Today he may be a girl tomorrow maybe gi Joe. Who knows, he's six. It's you you need to worry about. Focus on being a mother, making your kids life worth while. Not trying to make your Internet blasé famous. You've defeated that.

---Meeee!!:


Oh, hunny, no. Just stop while you're...not ahead.

--- carizma wrote:
> Take your own advice.


---Meeememememem!!:

Sweetheart, no. I'm not the one flipping my shit at a woman, and her child, whom I know relatively little about, aside from some bits and pieces you think you know from years old drama that wasn't even truly reported. My child says she is a girl, then she is a girl. And guess what? You don't get to change that, nor do you get to decide otherwise. You don't get to say she's wrong, or that I'm wrong, or that our family is wrong. I know it bothers you that Stephanie gets to change her world, and no one is stopping her. I know you feel hurt, upset, and stupid because a 6 year old knows herself and her world, and feels better about herself than you could ever feel about yourself.

I'm sorry for you, and for your family. You need help, really you do. Anyone who attacks a child's personal, very personal in fact, choices in the fashion in which you have...needs serious psychiatric help. I'll keep you in my well-wishes that you find the help and happiness you seem to so desperately need. :(


EDIT THE II: AND THERE IS MORE!!

---carizma
See you're getting it all wrong. And please, stop calling me sweetheart. I in no way like you. You're ignorant, arrogant and idiotic. You're disgusting and trash. You have no value, so please, do not call me sweet heart. I'm not attack your son. He is what he is. It's you that can't face the fact that he is a boy. Mentally a girl sure, but he is a boy. He has a penis. Check his birth certificate. If he wants to be a girl FINE. But, you birthed two boys.

Don't feel sorry for me. I'm fine. My children are well taken care of, they're happy about who they are and knowledgeable and not at all prejudice.

i'm sure your son/daughter is a happy little kid. He faces a world of hate and challenge. Be prepared for that. But you need to realize the truth. May he think in his mind he's a girl (and you're turning him into a girl or whatever you're condoning him to do or let him be whatever) he was born a boy. Can you not admit that? Because if you can't, i think you're the one who wanted him to be a girl, and not a boy.



mememmemememLIZZIEY BITCHES:
Oh, sweetheart, no no no no no. I'm sorry you are so ignorant as to the development of transgender children. I hope, for all the world, that your children never face something like this, never had to tell you they are in some way atypical. I fear the response they would get from you, sweetheart. I really do.

I'm just so sorry for you. :( :(

I have some wonderful ladies on my list now, some new girls (girls, introduce yourselves!!!) who I'm sure will love to read this when they wake up. Holy hell, some people, I just don't understand. :(

Date: 2009-08-25 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat-e-uh.livejournal.com
Oh don't even bother with this person! She is the epitome of IGNORANT!

Date: 2009-08-25 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
I have some new ones to post now!! ^_^

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Date: 2009-08-25 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-pea-doctor.livejournal.com
I can't stand her. Everytime I see a comment from her, I want to punch her smug face! UGH!

Where is she leaving these comments, btw? I want to read.

Date: 2009-08-25 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
She's sending them as private messages. I can keep posting, and you can respond to her through messages, I suppose. :)I am about to post the rest in a moment. ^_^

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Date: 2009-08-25 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethybugsmomma.livejournal.com
I admit that i dont understand but i also wont insult or critize or be negative. Im at a point i also refuse to argue that sex and gender are different or the same. More or less i figure if a person is happy and content with who the are, that is what matters.

Date: 2009-08-25 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
And I thank you. :)

Date: 2009-08-25 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lickintoadz.livejournal.com
He has a penis therefore he surely is a male.

...aaaaand Melissa feels slappy.

Date: 2009-08-25 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
Haha, reread the post, I edited in all her other messages. -_-


yeah, this has been an intereesting trolling. I was unawares that adults would really troll a child's choices like this.

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Date: 2009-08-25 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domesticjulie.livejournal.com
Even to me, her purpose has gotten lost in translation.

Date: 2009-08-25 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
haha, I know. She's pretty much devolved into "NO BECAUSE I SAY SO NA NA NA NA BOO BOO I DICTATE YOUR CHILDS LIFE NEENER NEENER"

Date: 2009-08-25 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erica057.livejournal.com
Didn't you know that sex = gender? *rolleyes*

Date: 2009-08-25 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
Haha, right.

Date: 2009-08-25 08:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kiwiria.livejournal.com
Exactly! All transgendered people I've met (pre- or post-op) have made a huge distinction between sex and gender.

Biologically Stephy may be male, but she's definitely not a boy... or perhaps it's the other way around? She's a boy but not male? I can never remember which way it goes.

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Date: 2009-08-25 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bullandterrier.livejournal.com
holy fuckin crazy..

to me, if you went and said "oh hey yeah i have two sons and one daughter" that would be belittling stephy's choice and implying you disapprove.

i feel bad for carizma's kids if they ever do something that isn't the 'norm'

Date: 2009-08-25 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbowchazer.livejournal.com
Omg what a load of...personally I have no probs calling someone female even if their birth cert and dangly bits tell me otherwise. Indeed have several pre-op m-to-f on my list who ask to be named and referred to as female, which I do. I've spent my life being mistaken for a boy so wth's the difference?
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Date: 2009-08-25 09:43 am (UTC)
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Ohhh! but she knows trans people, and that makes it ok!!

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Date: 2009-08-25 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
I KNOW. I guess she was pissed after finding out about my post? lol
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Date: 2009-08-25 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venomgurl.livejournal.com
oh the age old argument "ZOMG I HAVE TRANSGENDER FRIENDS SO IM NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD ABOUT IT!"

Date: 2009-08-25 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
I know!! Apparently transgender friends are the new black friends for the KKK. >:(

Date: 2009-08-25 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkiemouse.livejournal.com
You gotta love people who get offended and uppity about things that don't affect them in the least. :P

Date: 2009-08-25 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
Haha, ikr!!

Date: 2009-08-28 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmadapoet.livejournal.com
While I agree with her that Stephy is still PHYSICALLY a boy, what does that matter? Gahhh.

Date: 2009-08-28 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
Right, but she's insistant that until Stephy becomes physically female (if she chooses to!), that she's a boy, full stop, and everyone should stop referring to her as a girl because she is a BOY AND OMG!!!!!


yeah, fuck her.

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